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LAKERS WIN! LAKERS WIN! OH MY GOD THE LAKERS WIN!
STATS gave Grantland a bunch of data, and Zach Lowe wrote it up.
That’s the thing about Durant: Scroll through these categories one by one, and you'll say to yourself, “He should be doing this particular thing more often!” Then you realize you’ve said that for every category — drives, post-ups, elbow touches — and you just shake your head.
Kobe is 55th
I also think clutch does as well.
rr - Is there something about Garnett's personality that prevents team-building? I haven't heard a rep for alienating teammates or burning out coaches, and he was certainly the face of Boston coming together in their championship season. "Team cohesiveness" credit is hard to separate between Popovich and Duncan, too.
rr - Is there something about Garnett's personality that prevents team-building?
I guess casual fans may not use bb-ref ELO rater, and the advanced stats presented there probably work in Garnett's favor. Here's the top 20, Garnett is 10th. Duncan is 7th, Kobe is 55th. Russell is probably way underrated at 20 though.
DEN runs their winning streak to 9 in a row and are now just 1.5 GB of LAC for the 3-seed.
I don't know if this means anything, other than just that Garnett is, as everyone knows, a great, great player, but: "Garnett is the only player ever with at least 25,000 career points, 10,000 rebounds, 5,000 assists, 1,500 blocks and 1,500 steals."
I'm really shocked that people think Duncan/Garnett is a toss-up.
Duncan has slight statistical edges in PER as well as WS/48.
Of course, Duncan didn't play in the NBA when he was 18,19, 20, or 21.
Also, Duncan's just closer to being a center, right?
My gut says Kobe, but I'd have to really look at it
Is it sexist to claim that women's basketball has better fundamentals than the men's game? I think it is - which is not at all a knock on that game, but a function of resources, history, and so on.
What are fundamentals: not dunking is probably part of it. Um, making the right pass, boxing out, shooting form, and so on. Part good technique, part code for playing like it's 1958. (Meant as joke, critique of WBB, and slam on male commentators - a capacity I'm acting in with this post)
MT @JADubin5 "The Knicks are not playing defense like they did the first two months."-Magic Johnson. D-Rtg first 2 months: 102.7 ... Since: 102.8
I also am not sure that comparing Kobe to three 6'11" guys is the best way to evaluate him, although I of course did it myself.
Is it sexist to claim that women's basketball has better fundamentals than the men's game?
I was going to say as much in light of my personal belief that Dream is the greatest C ever, but...the stats are HEAVILY in Robinson's favor even acknowledging Hakeem playing almost half a decade more at a high level.
I don't think people truly appreciate how bad his supporting cast was pre-Duncan. It was an awful team. They were a 20 win team before he joined and they were a 20 win team when he missed the full season. They were a 50-60 win team in between. None of the other all-time greats have something that drastic on their resume. I wish there were +/- stats back then. He carried that team. Olajuwon had a pretty weak cast as well, but it felt better to me at the time.
1. He's bigger. In his prime, he was able to often guard Shaq. Garnett is a great interior defender, and got the max out of his slight frame. But I think in one-on-one low post defending, I'd take Duncan.
2. Better playoff resume. Garnett I think had a fairly earned reputation as being a guy who would play hot potato with the ball in the late stages of the playoffs. I think that Boston is/was a perfect team in that he never had to have the offense run through him in late game situations.
as a non-basketball fan i suspect the legend of hakeem is somewhat traced to the fact that he was incredibly elegant and fluid in his play. he was really pleasant to watch
if that makes any sense
duncan is kind of clunky
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