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“I think that’s what people don’t realize,” a National League scout said during spring training last week. “Gibby was as talented as any player on the field when he was in his prime. That could have been Upton. That could have been Bauer.”
I really hope this team resembles the Hindenburg. If they plod along and win 85 or something it will be so frustrating.
That could have been Bauer. When guys have the chance to be that kind of player, you deal with whatever else you don’t like about them as people, especially when they are still under team control.”
So what happens if they win 94 ? Head assplode ?
It's pretty common for ballplayers to have a poor understanding of what made them good ballplayers, but that's also why so few ballplayers become good managers and good executives.
In 1988, Gibson turned down the ASG invite (wasn't voted in as a starter) so he could spend time with his family.
Arizona is doing something exceptionally weird in contemporary baseball, trying to build the right kind of clubhouse atmosphere explicitly at the cost of talent, and I want this to either pay off hugely or blow up in their faces hilariously.
Has a MLB team ever deliberately picked up bad character guys who are maybe undervalued on the market because of their character, like the Bengals seem to do, or the Portland Jailblazers or the Oakland Raiders?
Were the 70's A's like that at all?
Bowden tried to do that with the Nationals, didn't he? The Elijah Dukes / Lastings Milledge / Wily Mo Pena era
Most of the A's players were homegrown: Hunter, Jackson, Rudi, Blue, Bando, Tenace, Campaneris, Fingers, probably more. I don't know if they might have been doing something like that at the minor-league and/or draft level, though.
Has a MLB team ever deliberately picked up bad character guys who are maybe undervalued on the market because of their character,
I hear soccer can be an exciting sport.
I think this is hard for a lot of talented people -- what they're good at comes so naturally, they don't know how to talk about it, understand it, or teach it.
Bill North was considered a troublemaker with the Cubs -- having a white girlfriend, not taking crap from white southern coaches and refusing to report to the minors after being sent down. He was acquired for Bob Locker. Bob Locker.
North is one of just 28 players in major league history with at least 1000 hits and OBP higher than SLG - and he just barely got to 1000 hits.
EDIT: Not saying he was a bad coach. He actually seems to have been pretty good at seeing what a player was doing wrong. He frequently wasn't able to explain it, but he could often demonstrate what the player was doing and what he should be doing.
he had a terrible throwing arm which i cannot recall if that was the result of injury or not.
I mean, if you wanna tell me that the Diamondbacks are doing this because they wanna get "gamers" to "mesh" with Kirk Gibson I'll surely smile and nod and placate you, but I won't believe you.
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