Go to end of page
Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.
Page 1 of 4 pages
The new Collective Bargaining Agreement defines a bonus pool for a team’s selections in the first 10 rounds. Beyond the 10th round, teams can give players bonuses of up to $100,000; however, any bonus figure that exceeds $100,000 will count against a team’s bonus pool from the first 10 rounds.
The penalties for exceeding the bonus pool from the first 10 rounds are severe:
Exceed pool by 0-5 percent: 75 percent tax on the overage
Exceed pool by 5-10 percent: 75 percent tax on the overage and loss of subsequent season’s first-round pick
Exceed pool by 10-15 percent: 100 percent tax on the overage and loss of 1st and 2nd round pick in next year’s draft
Exceed pool by more than 15 percent: 100 percent tax on the overage and loss of a team’s next two first-round picks
Let’s say that an elite talent in the draft falls to the Red Sox with their first pick this year at No. 24. Couldn’t the team simply give its entire bonus pool of $6.884 million to that player in an attempt to sign him?
Simple answer is no. If a team doesn’t sign a pick in the top 10 rounds, it “forfeits” that slot in its bonus pool. So, if the Red Sox do not sign their second first-round pick (No. 31 overall), their pool would be diminished by the $1.575 million slot for that pick.
As such, figuring out a draftee’s signability will prove more important than ever. Teams won’t have the option of simply reallocating money that had been earmarked for one player and giving it to another if they fail to find middle ground with him.
Also, the draft begins at 7 pm tonight.
Couldn’t the team simply give its entire bonus pool of $6.884 million to that player in an attempt to sign him?
Simple answer is no. If a team doesn’t sign a pick in the top 10 rounds, it “forfeits” that slot in its bonus pool.
Could a team give its entire bonus pool, minus $1000 or so, to one player and then draft and sign a bunch of the GM's college buddies for $100 each?
Not that anyone would do that, and not that it would be a good idea, but is that an option?
I predict that the Phils will pick Toolsy McAthlete with their first pick.
The problem, of course, is that then you absolutely must sign the guy, or you have no draft at all. It's a huge, crazy risk.
I wish there was a little bit more hype so I knew more about the players, although not to NFL levels
Just once I'd like to see them review their grades from 3 years ago to see how all their predictions panned out.
Some variation of that might be worthwhile, though - if you see talent you love slipping through the cracks as a result of the bonus rules, draft 7 or 8 of those guys, plunk down your entire bonus pool on them, and fill out the rest of your draft with beer league guys who can't play but would sign for $50.
The article addresses this. Apparently, some teams tried to register their interns for the draft. MLB said no.
[Appel's] breaking ball is a bit of a hybrid, but is effective and misses plenty of bats, and his changeup is average. He's excellent, but for some, he lacks the wow factor of a potential 1-1 pick. One scout commented, “The parts are greater than the sum,” as he can be surprisingly hittable at times.
I thought Appel was pretty much a sure thing to Houston as #1. Guess that could be wrong though. But no way he falls to the teens.
It seems like there are some concerns about his college workload,
The NFL draft hysteria is crazy. What a media hype driven circle jerk. Just once I'd like to see them review their grades from 3 years ago to see how all their predictions panned out.
I'm curious to see where Cuban LHP Onelki Garcia gets taken. He was a big-time talent in Cuba before running into all sorts of immigration and MLB problems after defecting. According to the rumor mill, his reps are demanding that Garcia be drafted in the first round and paid a $7 million bonus, which seems like an odd strategy under the new rules.
BA ranked him as, what, the #81 talent in the draft? (EDIT: #83) Not where he'll get picked, but how good he is.
So, what's the deal with Cuban defectors now? Are they included in the Draft? If Onelki goes undrafted (unlikely I suppose), he can sign with whomever he likes, right?
This is very likely ignorant on my part, but one of my first thoughts when I saw that was 'do Onelki and company have people to pay off (for getting him out of Cuba)? Not saying I actually believe that, but the thought was there.
BA ranked him as, what, the #81 talent in the draft?
Isn't this ranking mostly meaningless, though? No one really has a clue about him. Where would they have ranked Cespedes in last year's draft?
Garcia pitched in the Puerto Rican League last winter as well with some success, and in Puerto Rico and in the spring adult league he plays in, he has shown two plus pitches. Garcia's fastball sits at 90-93 mph, and his curveball, while somewhat inconsistent, is a true power pitch at its best. Garcia hasn't shown much of a changeup. Garcia has a physical 6-foot-2, 220-pound frame that needs no projection. At 22, he could move through a minor league system quickly as long as he comes out of the gate throwing strikes.
People are saying Soler would be a top five pick. People are obviously not saying Garcia would be a top five pick. There's not as much to go on, but scouts have seen him.
My own fearless prediction for the new CBA rules is that it'll take a few years of spectacular negotiation flame-outs, Matt Harrington-style lost bonuses, and parent/agent feuds before the zero-sum negotiating nihilism is worked out of the agent pool. More than a few agents are going to demand that teams sacrifice the better parts of their drafts to sign first and second round picks.
Second fearless prediction: this helps large-market teams over the long run.
I think the overall effect will be rather neutral in regards to large market v. small market.
If the Braves draft Tanner Rahier, as most boards seem to be predicting, I'm going to call him Chuck.
A lot of people believe this, but I disagree. These new rules make it very difficult for large-market teams (or at least winning large-market teams) to snag premium players late in R1 or in the comp round.
Chuck Rahier? I don't get it
If a smaller-market team decides to go way over its cap one year (and by "way over" I mean 5 whole percent over"), it doesn't get a 1st round pick at all the next year.
a larger market team with a bunch of picks may well decide to just scotch the next year's draft anyway, go way over their cap and "lose" picks that they weren't going to have anyway because they plan on signing FAs the next season.
Chuck Rahier? I don't get it
I disagree. If a smaller-market team decides to go way over its cap one year (and by "way over" I mean 5 whole percent over"), it doesn't get a 1st round pick at all the next year. If this becomes a regular thing - and I think it very well could for the teams who pick 1 and 2 and maybe even a little further back
On the flip side, a larger market team with a bunch of picks may well decide to just scotch the next year's draft anyway, go way over their cap and "lose" picks that they weren't going to have anyway because they plan on signing FAs the next season.
I don't think there's a single major league team dumb enough to cost themselves a draft pick in order to pay more money to a player who has no recourse for present day money other than taking the contract he's offered.
Law has Appel as his #6 prospect, Goldstein had him #4. It seems like there are some concerns about his college workload, and Goldstein's description of his secondary stuff kind of screams "stay away" given his projected draft position and bonus.
Maybe with choices 1-15 or so, 3 years of college experience and progress toward a degree isn't enough of a lure, but what about someone drafted fairly high who believes that they can enhance their draft position substantially with 3 years of college and another shot at the draft?
Chuck Tanner, people! CHUCK TANNER! Are you all children with no memories of days past?!
I might be misremembering but wasn't Jameis Winston once believed to be a guy who would choose baseball but now it's assumed he will play college football instead?
you need to retune your sarcasm meter, Sam
What's a Chuck Tanner?
Bid Selig may have zero stage presence
You know what I love about this draft over the NFL draft?
I wonder why he's being compared to BJ and Justin Upton.
You know what I love about this draft over the NFL draft?
It phrucking moves. Just when we've said what needs to be said about Correa, the Twins have picked Buxton.
Now it's a dragged out TV event.
No Mel Kiper Jr or Chris Berman?
If you're saying its because of race, that's absurd. Some compare him to Eric Davis as well.
You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.
Login to Join (1 members)
Page rendered in 1.3129 seconds, 74 querie(s) executed