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This argument suggests that in Pujols' years with the Cardinals he "forced" the team's worst defender to play higher in the defensive spectrum than he should, because shifting downward to 1B was not feasible.
but in the grand scheme of things, his performance in the 2013 world series will not be a significant factor in whether he makes it or not. say he plays for five more years and then is retired for five additional years, making it ten years from now. his hall of fame case at that time will rest on his body of work in the regular season. post-season performance is only used in rare "close" cases to tip the balance one way or the other.
tfbg, you do realize that the vast majority of baseball fans and baseball writers do not give a crap about the red sox, right?
But the main reason I made my remarks is to respond to the absurd suggestion that there is nothing particularly special about Ortiz as a PS hitter, and Juan Gonzales in comparable. David Ortiz is the most well-known post season hero of our time, the #1 guy since Reggie. That is gonna get him some votes. His body of work is unequaled among his contemporaries.
Even if it's granted that WAR gets it just right for Tenace's defensive adjustments and their career values are comparable, it's pretty silly to pretend they're similar players. Looking at career OPS+ alone misses about 2,700 more PA's for Ortiz. Another four full seasons of 650+ PA's, or 50% more than Tenace. Then there's peak, another huge difference. Best five seasons for Ortiz 171, 161, 160 158, 154, and a half season of 173. Tenace 149, 145, 139, 139, 137. His only "seasons" above that were with only 128 and 165 PA's. Regardless of what you think about value, Ortiz and Tenace are not similar players and pointing to career OPS+ is sloppy in this case.
I don't think that's a fair comparison because first base is a position and designated hitter is not.
Also, any costs to the Cardinals by using Pujols at first are already broadly reflected in the positional adjustment to his numbers. But because DH as a non-position doesn't have a set positional value, it's always going to need to be contextualized against the rest of the team.
Exhibit B: David Ortiz, 2013 ALCS. .091, but one of those two hits was a doozy. That at-bat is a welcome and valued part of the "narrative," of course. The other at-bats are meaningless minutia.
Beltran is a legit borderline hofer, and nobody is bothering to make the claim that with his post season heroics he should be moved to inner circle territory.
And yet he's (Ortiz) arguably has been inferior to Carlos Beltran in the post season, just has a better world series resume.
That at-bat is a welcome and valued part of the "narrative," of course. The other at-bats are meaningless minutia.
Who is suggesting Ortiz is inner circle? What the hell?
I think he's HOVG now. I think he will get, maybe, enshrinement with 500 HR's.
I think you're so sensitive to East Coast Bias that you have a blind spot in the other direction. Is Enos Slaughter in the HOF without his mad dash?
Well, that's childish.
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