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“Get a shot of cortisone, put a little dirt on it, Joe, kick yourself in the ass and get out there. I am tired of excuses. Everybody’s got an excuse in this game today. Get dressed, go play. They’re paying you tens of millions of dollars to play the game and you want to come up with a dead arm?”
Is he the biggest idiot ever?
“That’d be the right thing to do, wouldn’t it?
"Tigers Great Denny McLain"
Nathan is already an outlier in that he's a closer who has put 8 seasons with 30 saves and better than an era+ of 150. (Rivera did it 14 times, Wagner 9 times, Hoffman 6 times. (Papelbon has done it 5 times, he's the only active player at 5 or 4--there are 5 who have done it 5 times, and 9 who have done it 4 times) Basically relievers don't put together more than 5 very good seasons as a closer. Closers "destroy" their arms, even if they are still able to go out and pitch, they do not maintain effectiveness for a long career.
My fun trivia: not a great start to his Tigers career but Joe Nathan has a chance to save 40 games with 3 different clubs. As far as I know only two others have achieved that. Who are they?
I guess the asker of the question just missed a bunch of guys and 40 saves w/3+ clubs isn't really all that rare?
can't believe Denny made it to age 70, btw
Kwik-kwiz: Who was the very last batter Denny McLain faced in the major leagues?
Rk Player W L ERA+ WAR IP Year Tm1 Bob Welch 27 6 125 3.0 238.0 1990 OAK2 Steve Carlton 27 10 182 12.1 346.1 1972 PHI3 Steve Stone 25 7 123 4.0 250.2 1980 BAL4 Ron Guidry 25 3 208 9.6 273.2 1978 NYY5 Catfish Hunter 25 12 134 6.9 318.1 1974 OAK6 Fergie Jenkins 25 12 126 7.7 328.1 1974 TEX7 Mickey Lolich 25 14 124 8.6 376.0 1971 DET8 Tom Seaver 25 7 165 7.2 273.1 1969 NYM
Rk Player W L ERA+ WAR IP Year Tm1 Justin Verlander 24 5 172 8.4 251.0 2011 DET2 Randy Johnson 24 5 195 10.9 260.0 2002 ARI3 John Smoltz 24 8 149 7.3 253.2 1996 ATL4 Curt Schilling 23 7 140 8.7 259.1 2002 ARI5 Barry Zito 23 5 158 7.2 229.1 2002 OAK6 Pedro Martinez 23 4 243 9.7 213.1 1999 BOS
Tigers’ legendary right-hander has no remorse for current closer Joe Nathan and his dead arm.
Oh, how disappointing. Randy Johnson was once the sole owner of a weird and pointless anomaly: he'd been the only pitcher in the history of baseball to have a 24-5 record. But no, that dirty bastard Verlander just had to destroy Unit's singular glory. Which makes him the most detestable sunuvabitch since David Aardsma.
Before Barry Bonds in 1993, there had been 9 players to win back to back MVPs, and all 9 were distributed almost perfectly around the diamond: 1 each at P, C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, and RF. The only spoiler was 2 CF, but obviously one could put one at LF if one were making a team. Bonds made a true LF, but then there were 10 players.
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