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And Grich gets so little respect--especially here?
Grich had 9 seasons of 144+ games, and a 10th if you pro-rate 1981. Walker had 1 (3 if you give him his strike seasons), though he also had 8 others between 130-143. Allen had 5. Larkin had 6 144+ seasons, 8 if you give him his strike years. Considering that he & Grich played middle-infield positions (and well), I cut them some slack compared to the corner guys.
21st most PAs by a 2Bman since 1901, and in the middle of the HoF pack (he'd be 10th out of 18, between Schoendienst and Herman).
Biggest problem w/ Grich IMO is that it's hard to argue for him over Biggio.
Grich SHOULD be on the ballot this year. I get frustrated that the screening committee keeps coming up with the same names that get rejected but the same people are screening committee members every 3 years.
This is true. I so much prefer Hall of Fame discussions to be about the merits that I frequently don't even pay attention to the process. Which is to say, *my* biggest problem in putting Grich (whose candidacy I am fanatical about) above someone like Piazza or Raines or Schilling is that he likely fails the first basic test of being the best player at his position not in the Hall.
Don't act like you've never read The Lord of the Rings....
Torre should have been in as a player long ago, but the Hall is crap at evaluating catchers.
I'd say Bob Tufts
Roch Kubatko is...not good.
given I had to work to get sosa up to #10 on my pretend ballot last year and he is not gonna make it this year coming up with just 3 best candidates is too much work.
The Expansion Era ballot was devised by the Baseball Writers' Association of America (BBWAA) appointed Historical Overview Committee, comprised of 11 veteran members: Dave Van Dyck (Chicago Tribune); Bob Elliott (Toronto Sun); Rick Hummel (St. Louis Post-Dispatch); Steve Hirdt (Elias Sports Bureau); Moss Klein (formerly Newark Star-Ledger); Bill Madden (New York Daily News); Ken Nigro, (formerly Baltimore Sun); Jack O'Connell (BBWAA secretary/treasurer); Nick Peters (formerly Sacramento Bee); Tracy Ringolsby (FSN Rocky Mountain); and Mark Whicker (Orange County Register).
It looks like from the last Exp Era to the Pre Int it's many of the same.
With guys like Oliver, Staub, and Concepcion making the ballots over Grich
Concepcion played during one of the thinnest eras for shortstops ... which was simultaneously one of its richest eras for second basemen.
If you measure WAR during Concepcion's exact career band
I guess I have a hard time understanding what reasoning would produce a lousy SS class at the exact same time as an excellent 2B class.
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