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I thought once you got BBWAA membership you were eligible to keep it forever. Isn't there a Hall-of-Fame voter who's a political cartoonist in Montreal? I know the Trib's Olympics writer has a Hall-of-Fame vote. Or is it just Hall-of-Fame votes that you get to keep forever?
You get to keep Hall of Fame votes forever once you've reached the 10 years of active membership, which is supposed to come only after 10 years of covering the game. When Neyer left ESPN for the site he's at now, he was no longer writing for a credentialed site, so he lost his active membership. I imagine this happens fairly regularly, but usually because a guy stops covering baseball.
29 - and i was born and raised in said town...
there's a lot of mom's basements in said town. but the best bagels, even better than nyc, at hot bagels!
My thinking has changed, and all of you critics can blame yourselves. How could I relinquish my vote knowing how much it annoys you?
Nah ... you guys are just obsessed with your favorite niche (*) within the tapestry of baseball and Chass isn't. That's all this is.
It strikes me that Chass was pretty accomplished at the art of baseball beat writing -- his niche.
Not to be all David Broder, but there's a lot of bitter and irresponsible #### slinging by analysts, too.
By any realistic measure, the analysts, not the narrators, were the ones who turned the HOF into a war zone, with all the collateral damage necessarily entailed. They're the Germany here.
(W)ho the hell still reads Chass' work other than when used as click-bait?
The HOF is just one front -- the most important one, naturally -- in the analyst effort to reduce everything about baseball to analysis and ranking players by "value." The analysts believe that they are the only legitimate curators of the sport's history, and that history can only be legitimately described by ranking players by "value"; therefore, a Hall of Fame to which admission is gained through voting conducted by a group comprised of virtually all narrators is facially illegitimate.
The analysts believe that they are the only legitimate curators of the sport's history, and that history can only be legitimately described by ranking players by "value"
(H)istory can only be legitimately described by ranking players by "value";
It's more of a nuisance, like when Johnny Pesky died. One of the first posts was about him not being a HOFer.
Some older SABR guy I've met likes him.
Yes, I find this annoying. A player will retire, a thread will emerge here on BBTF, and all most people will want to talk about is the player's relationship to HOF standards.
I think maybe you should either a) stop talking to other baseball fans or reading anything about baseball on the internet, b) accept that almost no one agrees with you that HOF conversations are uninteresting, or c) start better conversations.
You know how annoying you find HOF conversations? That's how annoying I find complaints about HOF conversations.
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