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(to be fair, there were some big events there recently)
Is it the weather,
That's probably part of it. The April weather around our great lake was extraordinarily crappy. I wouldn't be surprised if Cleveland's was similar.
Cleveland wasn't the only place that had some tough weather so far this season. Why are they the ones with the extraordinarily low number of fans?
but Cleveland is working from a lower base
Right, Cleveland has a (much) lower base. Isn't the article asking why?
You can't take a team that was a game away from the World Series, trade back-to-back Cy Young winners for a couple bags of magic beans, and not cause lasting damage.
Well, it's also asking why it's so low right now.
Sure, those are all factors,
The 2007 team finished 21st in attendance. People didn't go see the team when it was good, or for Sabathia and Lee.
That's pretty misleading. They averaged 28,449 in attendance in 2007, which was closer to the seventh-place Giants (39,793) than to the last-place Marlins (16,920).
Attendance this year is 49.5% of what it was six years ago. The Cleveland Frowns article linked in #12 is exactly on the mark: When fans are sure that their fringe-contender team is about to lose its ace starter, All-Star shortstop, All-Star closer, and God knows what else, they're going to find something better to do with their time and money.
There are no butts in the seats because there's no faith that this collection of talent won't be traded for a pile of Grade B and B- prospects and/or lost to free agency.
Then we agree.
If Cleveland fans are so worried about what the roster might look like in a couple years that they can't enjoy seeing a team win 10 of 11 at the park in the present, they are far more neurotic then I thought. Small market teams have lost their talented players for a couple generations now, why is every other small market getting over that better than Cleveland is?
They aren't? Pittsburgh is one of the extremely few cities that has an even nicer ballpark than Cleveland does, and no one goes to the games if the Pirates aren't in contention. This is not a rare phenomenon.
Cleveland is also a city that at one point held a season attendance record that stood up for nearly 20 years, and later sold out its park for 455 straight games. What's true today isn't necessarily true tomorrow, and all small market teams in a down economy are going to have a tough time drawing unless they present an exceptional team for more than a month or two at a time.
The student sections are smaller than they were 10-20 years ago, at least at the two schools I can reference. Throw in the increasing undergrad enrollment over the last 20 years, and you have a situation where it can be impossible for students to attend. College athletic departments want just the minimal amount of students in attendance to make some noise and look good on tv.
The Pirates attendance is 50% higher than Cleveland's. Why is Cleveland so far below Pittsburgh? As I said above, it's not why is attendance generally low, it's why is it dead last, and way behind #29?
If Cleveland fans are so worried about what the roster might look like in a couple years that they can't enjoy seeing a team win 10 of 11 at the park in the present, they are far more neurotic then I thought.
Because the Pirates have been in contention for substantial parts of the last two seasons, have not given away any talent to avoid paying for it lately, and the fans are optimistic. This is not true of the Indians.
I'm sure they are. Cleveland fans are far more neurotic than anybody who's not one of them could ever fathom.
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