Go to end of page
Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.
Page 37 of 129 pages
So what did the 49ers learn from that? Nothing
You're assuming Harbaugh called time out to save the delay of game penalty. He may have called it because his QB looked completely lost as he tried to set up the play and he didn't want him to piss away one of his two chances to win the game.
As stated several times above, not running once in that last set of downs is bewildering.
However, if your plan is to pass 4 times, take the penalty. Hell, maybe take another 5 yarder.
Works for me, Harv. At first I thought he was just trying to throw off the defense's timing, but after the 50th or so time it kind of sunk in to me that that wasn't it.
talk about myopic. Didn't have any firm opinion on the 49ers before (noticed that this coach was a jackass, but it hadn't reached a critical mass), but now I think it's delicious that their coach is absorbing a second consecutive gut-wrencher end to a season. Looking forward now to seeing it happen again next year.
2. If people haven't figured out by now that Flacco is a lot more than an "average" quarterback, they probably never will. "Average" quarterbacks don't perform as consistently and as well as Flacco has done in the postseason. This wasn't the first time he's stepped up in an elimination game, and it's getting to be a pretty large "sample size", wouldn't you think?
3. I don't know whether I'd call it "momentum" or not, but the power outage gave the 49ers a chance to regroup. Maybe their turnaround was a pure coincidence, but color me skeptical about that.
...The game resumed with the 49ers in a third-and-14 spot at their own 40-yard line. Colin Kaepernick was chased and completed a short pass to Delanie Walker well short of the marker. Down 28-6, facing fourth-and-seven from their own 46, the Niners elected to punt, a pretty bad decision that went largely unnoticed. Andy Lee punted the ball into the end zone, and the Ravens took over at their own 20. Joe Flacco immediately completed a pass to Torrey Smith for a first down.
At this point, both teams' units have been on the field since the delay. The Niners offense ran a give-up play, their punter managed to miss the red zone from his own 30 or so, and their defense allowed an immediate first down. The aftermath of the blackout delay was that the game was going exactly as it had gone from the opening kickoff. Even if momentum existed the way the entire sports-media community insists that it does, it had not moved following the blackout delay.
I find the "momentum" discussion painful because it diminishes the game and the athletes who play it. The desperate need to find reasons for everything that happens and to assign meaning to small streaks of events is disrespectful to the talented men on the field.
Take a look at Kurt Warner. For his career he played 13 postseason games and had a QB rating of 103.
he's outplayed every elite quarterback he's faced
and what the hell does "pitching to the score" have to do with it?
Don't they have a camera which would have shown if Akers missed field goal was good or not (the one on which running into the kicker was called)
Did it not occur to anyone that the 49ers could have then gone for fourth and two instead of retrying the field goal.
Do any of the scout-y people here agree with my assessment that Flacco's deep ball goes too high in the air? Not that it isn't effective as he can drop it in more.
I'm not sure why anyone would feel the need to nitpick that assessment, but then I'm not a mindreader.
Again, what does "pitching to the score" in a 6-5 baseball game have to do with the level of QB ratings that Flacco's had in the past three postseasons?
Ray, you just said yourself that you'd "go to war with Flacco." And since I'm not putting him in the class of Peyton or Brady in the regular season, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, unless it's that you'd go to war with a lucky QB.
I don't know about this, but the penalty for holding in the end zone is a safety. So Darren is right - the Ravens should have done *everything* in their power to keep the defense away from the punter for as long as possible.
But if they had just blatantly committed penalty after penalty on that play (as they should have) it would have reminded me of Brett Bielma at Wisconsin when the NCAA made that one year rule change to starting the clock on kick-offs when the ball was kicked, as opposed to when it was caught. When they played Penn State a few years ago, with about 30 seconds left in the first half, he just kept having his team go off-side on the kickoff. Not sure if PSU could have just declined it, or been allowed to tack yards on to the end of the run, but either way, they didn't
I saw that hold and quickly realized it wouldn't have mattered anyway. And I'm not sure why it took Simms so long to realize (other than the fact that he's just not very smart), that the safety was absolutely the best option in that situation.
And I'm not sure why it took Simms so long to realize (other than the fact that he's just not very smart), that the safety was absolutely the best option in that situation.
i am pretty sure paterno never spoke to bielama after that game. as in ever.
nfl teams should have a coach dedicated to clock management but they don't. organizations cut corners in curious ways
And yes - each team should be specifically thinking about how to exploit the rules in anticipation of a non-standard situation.
Not having a dedicated "clock management coach" has nothing to do with cutting corners. It is that a head coach would never give up that power.
not really. at the big ten season kickoff meeting in chicago paterno had plenty of chances to speak with the wisky coach. didn't happen
head coaches ignore assistants all the time. what makes you think that by having someone dedicated to provide educated input the head coach surrenders anything?
I don't think it occurred to Simms that the safety could eat up so much clock. If it didn't take any time, the 49ers would be able to run one play after the punt return, needing only a long FG to tie. With a generic punt, they still need a touchdown after the punt return.
paterno raised holy h8ll with the big ten under the mantle of player safety. i can see that argument.
Plus, after a safety that took far less time off the clock, there's almost no way they would have been in field goal range after a free kick AND had time left to run a play.
I went to a Notre Dame game this year, and I guess you don't realize it at home with multiple other games to switch to (or DVRs), but the number and length of TV time outs is outrageous
Leitch and Deadspin eviscerate the announcers
So if they clock the punter in the endzone on that gimme-a-safety play, is it roughing the kicker?
Which makes one wonder, why not put a wide receiver back there for that play?
(Keep in mind I'm someone who hates the idea that the offense is allowed to kneel down in the final seconds with a lead.)
I'm guessing there's no elegant solution to that (if one thinks it a problem).
You could do what the Arena League does: if you don't gain yardage, the clock stops.
You could do what the Arena League does: if you don't gain yardage, the clock stops.
I'd love for the NFL to adopt this rule within 2 minutes.
As someone who had some of the same thoughts, I also realized that if no punter is in, the 49ers can rush everyone. Snap it to a WR and there is no need to have anyone back. If you rush 11 and the punter then kicks it, the ball will not stop rolling before the clock runs out.
If you rush 11 and the punter then kicks it, the ball will not stop rolling before the clock runs out.
I'm not implying a damn thing. I'm just reciting Flacco's postseason numbers,
As a Ravens fan
Take a reading lesson and apply it to what I wrote right above your question.
I've been reciting those numbers on and off for the past few weeks, in response to the idea that Flacco is nothing but an average quarterback on a hot streak, a sentiment that's less openly expressed now, but one that still seems to hold sway in some quarters.
And I don't need to "imply" anything about Flacco. I openly stated what I think about him in the paragraph you chose not to copy---he's shown elite skills but not elite overall consistency.
You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.
Login to Join (0 members)
Page rendered in 1.0985 seconds, 52 querie(s) executed