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I believe I had them at 9 or 10 wins this season.
And what do people make of the Colts? 11-5 but outscored on the year. Most of their wins have been close, and they've been blown out a few times.
I think teams are far too conservative in hiring/firing decisions. Lovie should have been fired years ago. Norv should have been fired years ago. Jason Garrett should obviously be fired. Why waste time?
I think the Colts and Luck's rookie campaign explain just how easy it is to QB in the NFL if you have decent scheme and a few WRs.
If they can get a QB, they could be pretty good.
You're right, but this is also true of about 20 other teams. Therein lies the issue.
The problem with such a hiring/firing strategy is you're just as likely to end up with the next crap coach as getting the next genius, as SD discovered when it aggressively shitcanned Marty and replaced him with ol' Norv. As Tom says, my guess is the next Bears coach, in total, won't be as good as Lovie.
The Bears have made the playoffs 1 time in the last 6 years. Lovie made the playoffs 3 times in 9 seasons. End of discussion, that's just unacceptable.
2, there is literally nothing he could have said about howie roseman that would have been more reassuring than what he actually said
But Marty got fired at Feb. 12th according to his wiki, a good month after the playoff lost. During that whole month, both his offensive and defensive coordinators take HC jobs somewhere else, so you couldn't promote in house if you want to,
Mortensen reported that Spanos told Schottenheimer on Monday that it wasn't going to work between him and Smith. Mortensen also reported that Smith began calling Chargers players Monday night, telling them not to panic in the wake of the firing.
The San Diego Union-Tribune, citing unnamed sources, reported that Schottenheimer was fired after trying to interview his brother, Kurt, for the team's vacant defensive coordinator post. Spanos and Smith didn't approve of the move, but Schottenheimer reportedly insisted he had the right to hire his own staff.
The newspaper reported that tension had been building between Schottenheimer and the Chargers' front office after he allowed several of his coaches to interview elsewhere. The front office didn't approve of Schottenheimer's decision.
Beyond Turner, the other known San Diego head coach candidates -- Gary Gibbs (New Orleans), Mike Zimmer (Atlanta), Mike Singletary (San Francisco), Ron Rivera (Chicago) and Rex Ryan (Baltimore) -- are all coaches whose expertise is on the defensive side. All but Singletary are current coordinators.
He said that Roseman's bad drafts were Andy's fault, but the one good draft was all Roseman. I'm not buying what he's selling.
But this year was going to be do or die for him and the team clearly lacks the proper vision to do much of anything on the offensive side of the ball. The Bears' defense is getting older, got to look good against some bad teams when fresh while getting some lucky breaks, and then looked mortal in the second half. No real reason to stick with Smith for the rebuilding process.
He doesn't really bring anything to the table as a head coach that a coordinator can't bring to his area of expertise. He doesn't have an eye for talent, isn't an innovator, isn't anything special as a developer, and is completely helpless when it comes to offense.
It also means that Roseman better have a good draft or he should be on the hot seat.
I would have fired Roseman along with Reid, he helped assemble this disaster of a team.
During that whole month, both his offensive and defensive coordinators take HC jobs somewhere else, so you couldn't promote in house if you want to, and more importantly all of the good potential HC coaches that year were already signed up by somebody.
iirc, marty was fired specifically because his coordinators were hired elsewhere. if his staff was intact, he was going to continue as head coach, but i think the chargers were pissed that cameron and phillips were hired elsewhere, so they fired marty as a result.
the seeds were sown years and years before. this team has had terrible draft after terrible draft, and that didn't start in 2011 (though 2011 was by far the worst of them by far).
Severely doubt it. Smith has almost no say in the coaching staff.
That makes no sense.
You know who was involved in that? Howie Roseman.
The thing is I don't think that is anything special or unique when it comes coaches and their systems. It seems to me every system in football has positional spots filled by unheralded players with unheralded backgrounds. Which is why I said I don't think Smith brings anything to the table that a coordinator wouldn't also bring to the table. His team seems to like him but that generally happens for any good coordinator as well. His strengths aren't unique and his flaws are too many to stay the HC of the Beras.
the way i'm looking at this is, if you take what's being said at face value, roseman could be one of the best GMs in the NFL.
so, if roseman is that good, and you knew for a fact that he is that good, would you still fire him just on general principle for having been in the room for the last few years?
I am not taking what Lurie said on face value. We don't know for a fact he is any good. Howie Roseman was part of a group of people that was bad at drafting. Lurie thinks he was an exception to the rule. We shall see, but I am skeptical. As I have said before, one of the biggest problems the Eagles have had in recent years is that front office vacancies are always being filled from within. There are no outside voices, no fresh takes on anything. Roseman is the face of that.
A lot of that was Lovie's choice ("Rex is our quarterback"). Regardless, they made the playoffs one time with Cutler in 4 years. Still fireable.
There's no reason the Bears shouldn't be one of the more successful teams,
History and market. Those obviously mean less in the NFL than other leagues, but still can mean something.
Only coach now with a longer tenure is Belichick (and Reid was too, before his firing).
I'm not sure that you'd want [A.J. Smith] picking the next coach, but I'm not convinced that he needed to go.
Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter
Ray Lewis announced he is retiring at the end of the season.
Brad Biggs ?@BradBiggs
Will be interesting to see whether or not Phil Emery and #Bears consider special teams coordinator Dave Toub for head coaching position.
Brad Biggs ?@BradBiggs
#Falcons special teams coach Keith Armstrong has interview with #Bears scheduled. If they want to look at an ST coach, explain why not Toub?
Brad Biggs ?@BradBiggs
Emery asked if Dave Toub is a candidate: "No one is excluded." That doesn't sound like he is included either.
Brad Biggs ?@BradBiggs
So, that puts 2 special teams coaches on Phil Emery's radar and while he didn't rule out Dave Toub, he didn't include him on his list today.
How many ST coaches went on to become HC without another coordinator stop on the way?
Schefter is reporting that Andy Reid is 95% likely to go to the Cardinals.
Dan Bernstein ?@dan_bernstein
What Emery didn't say in the o-line talk was that Carimi played on one leg all year. They think he'll be 100% for the first time for OTAs.
Saints O.C. Pete Carmichael is currently interviewing for the Bears' head coaching job, per league source.
Brad Biggs ?@BradBiggs
Don't be surprised if interviews of ST coaches Keith Armstrong & Joe DeCamillis leads back to interview for Dave Toub. http://trib.in/UdoRAG
If Emery wants to explore the Harbaugh model, it would seem chances are good at some point he will involve Bears special teams coordinator Dave Toub. Toub remains under contract to the Bears through 2013 so there would be no rush to sit down with him.
"No one is excluded," Emery said when asked if Toub would be interviewed. "We have some excellent coaches on our staff and I'm not excluding anybody.
"We're going to look offensively, we're going to look defensively, we're going to look special teams, we're going to look NFL, we're going to look college."
Toub interviewed for the Dolphins' head coaching job last January and has consistently operated one of the finest units in the league. Part of the appeal of a special teams coach is he is the only coach other than the head coach that works with nearly the entire roster. Emery, a strength and conditioning coach in college, has a similar background as an assistant who works with all players. In that way, he shares a common background with Toub, who was a strength coach for 15 seasons at Missouri and UTEP.
Any football gamblers? I lost last week on GB vs the Vikings, but am tempted to bet on them again, even though they are currently giving 4.5 more points than in the game in which they couldn't cover. I fear I may be stubborn.
I like all 4 home teams this weekend, which worries me because I think 2-3 road teams usually cover on WC weekend. I'll probably only bet Houston because I see them running all over the Bengals.
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