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I think the tie is already over. Sheesh. Bayern are really freaking good.
Yeah they look like top class right now. They appear much stronger than Barca, Real, United, Juven or anyone else right now.
Diaby has been in poor form. Not spending the cash for a midfield destroyer is biting them in the, ahem, arse.
Any suggestions for half time changes for Arsenal? Maybe Ox in for Ramsey and move Cazorla more central? Get some more pace on the wings? It's a real handicap for Arsenal that Monreal is cup-tied. I think they're stuck with Koscielny at left back.
If I have to pick a team, I'll still pick Barca, no doubt. Bayern indeed look really impressive, but a good half against a mediocre Arsenal side isn't going to sway me. That was always a mismatch. Bayern play in a cupcake league. Dortmund is the only team that can play up to their level, and their track-record against them is not good. They had a cupcake group for the CL, and lost their second game 3-1 to BATE Borisov... They are hardly invincible.
I also don't get the hate of the RvP selling. I get Man U is a "rival" but even with him, I didn't see Arsenal challenging for a title and Arsenal got a good amount of money for him when there was a good chance he would have left on a free a year later.
This whole pressing of Bayern ain't working out too well.
This argument is only valid if they finish in 4th this season without him.
Overall, this seems like a good listing of players who've been finishing well and players who haven't. Except for the whole RVP thing.
Benteke's agent must be salivating at this point.
6/11 Shane Long
He's a screamingly obviously perfect fit for their needs
What is the methodology for deciding what is a "big chance"?
SG - And seeing Cisse, Aguero, and RVP all go from top of the league to bottom, while Suarez switches bottom to top, certainly shows the variability of these numbers.
According to the file that Man City gave with their Opta data when they released that year for free, a big chance is "A situation where a player should reasonably be expected to score usually in a one-on-one scenario or from very close range." which I assume is the same for this, since it's also Opta.
I'm wondering MCOA, do you have Jelavic's numbers from last year? I mean, his horrible numbers for this year match up with what I've seen. Last year obviously he scored more, but I'd be interested in what his "conversion" rate was.
EDIT: RVP has so many of them, maybe he does such a good job on marginal chances that they are deemed big chances by the observers. Like an outfielder who makes hard balls seem catchable, dragging down his percentage of plays made.
How true is this really? Well, they obviously struggle against Dortmund. But if you asked me to pick between a top 2 of Man City and Man Utd and Bayern and Dortmund I'd take the German teams.
Germany is quite a bit better in terms of domestic football, which seems like it should help with lower/middle table teams.
Challenge time: Without looking it up, name a current German national team player, who plays club football at a German club, other than Bayern or Dortmund.
That was kind of the point, they have no depth. Bayer are a semi-decent, nothing special team. Maybe on par with Everton.
I'm not going to argue too much because I don't follow the Bundesliga, but there is absolutely no way Everton is dominating Arsenal on the road the way Bayern did today. Absolutely none.
Hey FPH, can't one say the same thing about La Liga though? Pretty much the entire core is built from RM, Barca and the EPL, no?
And the last time either of Real and Barca didn't finish 1/2 was in 2004. Hell, the last time another team was within 20 points of either of them was 2009.
oday, we heard Gus Johnson commentate his second soccer game for FOX Soccer, where he was the announcer for the UEFA Champions League match between Arsenal and Bayern Munich. His performance as a commentator at the Emirates Stadium tonight showed that he was a considerable amount of work ahead of him if he wants to improve.
The main issue with Johnson’s commentating today was his inability to correctly read the game in key moments. Examples include Johnson shouting “What a save!” when Manuel Neuer stopped an Olivier Giroud shot that was aimed point-blank at the German goalkeeper. Plus, in the first half, Bayern Munich won a free kick on the edge of the area, Johnson didn’t call it. Either he didn’t see the referee signaling for a free kick, or didn’t understand the call that the ref made. Instead his commentary was “A nice slide… dangerous for Arsenal.” His inability to distinguish between a foul and a “nice slide” is worrying. Plus, the TV viewer at home shouldn’t be the one figuring out it’s a free kick before the commentator does.
Other flubs included repeatedly mispronouncing Bacary Sagna’s name in the first half, as well as misreading a Bayern Munich corner as an Arsenal goal kick, and lulling us to sleep with his monotone commentating during quieter moments of the game.
Thankfully co-commentator Ray Clemence papered over many of the cracks, doing a far better job alongside Johnson than Warren Barton did last week. Clemence’s insights into the game were timely and astute, often enhancing our experience of watching this exciting match. His chemistry with Johnson was also decent. Clemence was able to defuse Johnson’s over-exuberance at times. When Johnson made the “What a save!” call, Clemence explained that “To be fair to Neuer, he doesn’t know a lot about it. If that’s half a yard either side of him, it’s in the back of the net.”
While Johnson’s performance was far from catastrophic, today revealed a little more regarding how much of a gulf there is between what he knows compared to the knowledge level of an average soccer commentator.
I wouldn't have gotten any. I don't see why this matters though. Unless your argument is that Germany has been much better at the domestic level the last 15 years than England purely because of the starting 11 (which has completely turned over during this time, in most spots multiple times) rather than a much more logical explanation - they're better, as a country, at every level. The EPL has had some advantages in terms of the strength of the pound and good American TV contracts. It will be interesting to see how and if that changes.
Except this year, of course :)
The main issue with Johnson’s commentating today was his inability to correctly read the game in key moments. Examples include Johnson shouting “What a save!” when Manuel Neuer stopped an Olivier Giroud shot that was aimed point-blank at the German goalkeeper.
Bayern play in a cupcake league. Dortmund is the only team that can play up to their level, and their track-record against them is not good. They had a cupcake group for the CL, and lost their second game 3-1 to BATE Borisov... They are hardly invincible.
Bayer are a semi-decent, nothing special team. Maybe on par with Everton.
I mean, "not invincible" is a very long distance from any kind of criticism. Everyone's vincible. Having a relatively weak record against Dortmund, one of the five or so best club teams in the entire world, is hardly some horrible black mark on your CV.
There are only two clubs in the Premier League that are clearly better than Everton. This suggests equivalence between the German and English leagues, not divergence.
What I note here is that the Premier League has a big advantage in the high mid-range, but then a big disadvantage in the true middle range. After the top seven clubs in the Premier League, there are a whole lot of cupcakes.
I'm hesitant to give much credit to Chelsea because they were horribly outplayed by Barca and Bayern. Yeah they won the CL, but that doesn't mean they deserved to or were one of the 20 best teams in Europe last year.
They're a top 20 teams in terms of talent but I don't think they played like it over the course of the year last year.
I would say they were horribly outplayed by Bayern in the final.
He's a really poor choice, but it's not like Fox has a ton of better options among their ranks.
The most baffling aspect of this Arsenal side is that it so often gives the impression that it isn't far from being good. It keeps offering hope of better things to come. There are runs of five, six games in the Premier League that are good enough both to get Arsenal into the Champions League and to keep fans believing. Even against Bayern the opening minutes offered promise, Theo Walcott's pace looking as though it could unsettle Daniel van Buyten. But then, as so often, came a fatal sloppiness.
No Premier League side has made as many mistakes leading to goals this season as Arsenal: it averages a defensive error every 71 minutes. Last season it was every 117 minutes. Chelsea make a mistake only every 190 minutes. But it's not just errors; there's an institutional laxity about the side. After seven minutes that suggested a potential classic, a wounded Arsenal hurling itself at a sleek Bayern, the flaws came to the fore.
It was a shambles, and it's hard to know who to blame but the coaching staff. For all the talk of the lack of money Arsenal has spent, much of its underperformance has resulted from errors that would be unacceptable from professionals far lower down the pyramid. Former Arsenal defender Steve Bould was recruited in the summer to improve that aspect of Arsenal's play, but if anything it's even worse this season. Yet really it seems a matter of attitude rather than position of softness. That can be a matter of confidence and morale -- there can be a tendency when things are going wrong to become fatalistic, but then it is up to the manager to encourage his side to take responsibility.
Jonathan Wilson half-buries the Gunners:
Another way of putting this, here is Germany's team sheet from the Italy game from Euro 2012
Well some googling indicates to me that "rosbif" is a French word for the English, derived from "roast beef". Not sure if it's insulting or not. No worries, we'll just beat Lyon with out Welshman, our Togolese and our fine collection of Belgians. Oui oui Monsieur Aulas!
Well some googling indicates to me that "rosbif" is a French word for the English, derived from "roast beef".
I think Benteke fits Tottenham's needs even more clearly than he fits Arsenal's. And he'd be perfect for Everton, he'd be great at Swansea or West Ham or Norwich. He's just really good at football, and lots of clubs need a striker, or need a better striker.
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