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The Yankees handled him well last night...
If the infield single is hit a fraction harder, it's a groundout and another scoreless inning. The two they scored in the fifth came when Tejada threw a potential double play ball about ten feet wide of first base.
The Yankees handled him well last night, so let's hold off just a wee a bit longer before we proclaim him an elite pitcher.
You're not saying the main reason Dickey has been a top ten pitcher the past two years is insane luck, are you? It seems you are.
But getting insane luck like that is not an ability level, and when Dickey got more normal luck, he looked more normal. Giving up two walks and a homer in an inning isn't exactly the stuff of Sidd Finch.
Maybe Dickey has decided to stop avoiding fried meats.
College pitchers drafted in the first round in 1996: Benson, Looper, Koch, Greisinger, Dickey, Mark Johnson, Milton, Corey Lee.
High schoolers: Patterson, Matt White, Eaton, Seay, Todd Noel, Westbrook, Meche, Marsonek, Josh Garrett, Bierbrodt, Reitsma, Marquis.
I really don't understand Ray's disability when it comes to acknowledging that Dickey has been a very good pitcher for two years now. I rarely agree with Ray Ray on the merits of many questions, but I usually get his schtick. But this one confounds me.
But getting insane luck like that is not an ability level, and when Dickey got more normal luck, he looked more normal.
I did not quickly equate "normal" with "top ten pitcher over the past 2+ seasons.
No, I am not. Please read my post 6 again. I was talking specifically about his 40-inning scoreless streak. (Or whatever it ended up being.)
Saying "Oh, but he should have been out of the inning, because he induced a weak swinging bunt that went for an infield single" implies that other pitchers don't also get dinged by weak hits.
He mentioned it as a counter to your claim that the Yankees "handled him well."
But they did handle him well, so there was no counter.
I don't even think whomever claimed that Dickey would cause a pitching paradigm shift said that he was going to continue that pace. Did anyone?
Dickey is not the only guy to throw a "hard knuckler", didn't Jared Fernandez toss one as well?
Dan disagreed with your idea that the Yankees "handled him well," and laid out why. He didn't imply no other pitcher gets dinged by infield hits. That was your incorrect inference. He didn't suggest he's a knuckleballing superfreak.
With respect to the debate as Dickey's performance, I've seen Wilbur Wood, Wakefield, even Sparks have these runs of a few games where they looked unhittable, but it never lasted for more than that. They all seemed to skew towards a .500 won-lost number and a 4.00 ERA..the difference with Dickey is that he has done this for an extended period of time, and the difference may be that he does throw a harder knuckler which may be easier to keep around the strike zone. I don't expect him to keep this up, but I think he's BTTAK (better than the average knuckleballer).
Consistent 160 ERA+ starters do not exist,
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