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It’s not kindergarten here.
“I was pinch hit for with the bases loaded and a 3-2 count. It didn’t ruin my confidence.
What's the logic for sending him out there for the at-bat in the first place?
“If you don’t think it was a good decision, so what,” Valentine added.
I'm reasonably sure that Bobby Valentine is a few days away from doing a bawdry song and dance number in order to get himself fired.
Also, I discovered that at one point the manager of the Angels was a man named "Bobby Winkles".
It saddens me that it will be all over in 2 weeks.
10.15 STRIKEOUTS ...
(b) When a batter leaves the game with two strikes against him, and the substitute batter completes a strikeout, the official scorer shall charge the strikeout and the time at bat to the first batter. If the substitute batter completes the turn at bat in any other manner, including a base on balls, the official scorer shall score the action as having been that of the substitute batter.
Cr# Yr# Gm# Date Tm Opp Pitcher Score Inn RoB Out RBI WPA RE24 LI Play Description
1 1 1 1972-05-11 (1) LAD NYM Tom Seaver tied 0-0 t2 123 1 0 -0.08 -0.76 2.95 Strikeout
2 2 1 1972-05-27 LAD HOU Fred Gladding ahead 3-7 t8 123 1 0 -0.01 -0.76 .28 Strikeout
3 1 1 1976-09-29 SDP CIN Fred Norman tied 0-0 b1 123 0 0 -0.07 -0.75 2.31 Strikeout
4 1 1 1977-06-05 SDP LAD Doug Rau ahead 0-1 t1 123 2 0 -0.06 -0.76 2.55 Strikeout
5 2 1 1977-07-15 (1) NYM PIT Jim Rooker down 3-1 b5 123 2 0 -0.11 -0.74 4.26 Strikeout
6 1 1 1979-07-28 SEA OAK Dave Hamilton tied 4-4 t5 123 1 0 -0.10 -0.80 3.32 Strikeout
ANGELS 1ST: Rivers grounded out (first to pitcher); Chalk singled to shortstop; TRAVERS REPLACED WRIGHT (PITCHING); LLENAS BATTED FOR VALENTINE; Travers threw a wild pitch [Chalk to second]; Pitch from Wright was over Valnetine's [sic] head and he charged the mound. They fought and both were ejected. Valentine suffered a shoulder dislocation and did not play again until June 14; Llenas made an out to shortstop; Robinson singled to center [Chalk scored]; Oliver forced Robinson (shortstop to second); 1 R, 2 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Brewers 0, Angels 1.
ANGELS 8TH: Oliver singled to left; Doherty singled to left [Oliver to second]; MCCRAW BATTED FOR RODRIGUEZ; McCraw flied out to center; LLENAS BATTED FOR VALENTINE; Llenas grounded out (second to first) [Oliver to third, Doherty to second]; Rivers singled to second [Oliver scored, Doherty to third]; On a bunt Doyle reached on an error by Burleson [Doherty scored (unearned) (no RBI), Rivers to second, Doyle to first]; Stanton popped to first in foul territory; 2 R (1 ER), 3 H, 1 E, 2 LOB. Red Sox 5, Angels 3.
When a batter leaves the game with two strikes against him, and the substitute batter completes a strikeout, the official scorer shall charge the strikeout and the time at bat to the first batter.
Valentine should have just said, "I was pinch hit for by Winston Llenas. Four times. It didn't ruin my confidence."
I don't know if Retrosheet or BB-ref would indicate if someone came in to pinch-hit in the middle of an at-bat. But none of the 26 games I found by searching for "pinch hits for Bobby Valentine" contained such a note
I thought he might be sharp and might be the right change in tone from Tito to get the best out of this team. Hell, he was adaptive enough to go over to Japan and succeed. I thought that should indicate that he can change his act to make things work in Boston. I wasn't his biggest booster but I thought there was a decent chance it would work.
I was wrong. I don't think he's been a terrible manager but I've never gotten the perception that he's particularly sharp and his weirdly narcissistic world view combined with a refusal/inability to simply say the politic thing to the press makes him much more trouble than he's worth.
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