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So, their is an argument on The Guardian podcast that the handball in the Chelsea-Arsenal game wasn't a red card? Is that right? I just assumed it was just as Suarez's handling in the WC was.
There are circumstances when a caution for unsporting behaviour is required
when a player deliberately handles the ball, e.g. when a player:
• deliberately handles the ball to prevent an opponent gaining possession
• attempts to score a goal by deliberately handling the ball.
A player is sent off, however, if he prevents a goal or an obvious goalscoring
opportunity by deliberately handling the ball. This punishment arises not from
the act of the player deliberately handling the ball but from the unacceptable
and unfair intervention that prevented a goal being scored.
Does anybody actually LIKE the double punishment rule?
One rationale for the double punishment could be that the punishment has to be worse for the perpetrator than the expected outcome of the situation. Conceding just a penalty is a win.
I'm not sure that presumption is absolutely correct.
Penalties are missed. Depending on the competition, the average percentage scored is generally between 70 and 80 percent.
In order for the penalty+red combination to be worth more, the increase in the probability of scoring occasioned by playing against 10 men would have to be greater than the missed penalty percentage. This is obviously dependent on when in the game the situation occurs (which is yet another reason why Suarez' hand ball for Uruguay against Ghana was just about as optimal as one could get).
I hate it actually. If you give a penalty, no need for a red card (unless there was some sort of vicious or unsporting intent).
Leagues shouldn't live in glass houses. The EPL, for example, has Terry, Suarez, several noted divers (along with the not-so-subtle racism that is invoked regarding that and other issues). It also has this "greatest league in the world" marketing that some, i.e. me, find extremely irritating. I, too, have a hate, not-so-like attitude toward El Clasico, and every league has plenty of problems (e.g., the recent signage at Bayern for the Arsenal match). It's all a reflection of society, including added twists of absurd amounts of money and city/feudal and nation-state politics, regardless of league. I think we all just try to take a bit of good with the sizable amount of bad.
I was checking out the lower league tables today and saw that Portsmouth is only 3 points away from falling out of the Football League. Jeez.
Yeah, I really don't think the diving in the Clasicos is much worse than in the premier league. I mean, nothing in the latest game was remotely close to this...
Well, hell, Rangers went from the SPL to the 4th division in one offseason. I'm pretty sure they were having to play semi-pro clubs that were named after themselves!
Coventry are in the process of literally being asset-stripped, as the hedge fund that owns the team sees no logical reason why it should play in a stadium or have fans.
At least Rangers are taking care of business at the lower levels, they finished with 28 win, 2 draws, 0 losses this year.
"It is, in fact, a trick question. Coventry City have never won the FA Cup." Sounds like that Monty Python line will not be outdated anytime soon.
Rio wouldn't be playing if Smalling, Vidic or Evans were healthy - its pure desperation. He was done a couple years ago but Ferguson kept him around for sentimentality.
Ah. There is talk of expanding the station still and I don't think they can increase attendance until they deal with that. It takes forever to get onto the train after a game.
And I'd like to hear more on the implications of Barcelona's transfer ban.
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