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Like what ... his WAR? That's silly.
Why would the NYT editors allow acronyms WAR and VORP to go without periods after each of the letters but not B.A.B.I.P?'
According to Times style, it's because WAR and VORP are spoken as the words war and vorp, while BABIP is not spoken babip, but all five letters are spoken individually. This distinction is most evident in the Times' treatment of AIDS and H.I.V.
I've heard it said Ba-bip.
"Useful" to what?
I don't necessarily disagree with SBB here, but wouldn't it be interesting or inevitable for an announcer for a team with the Astros' front office to try to present some of these advanced metrics if for no other reason that they seem to be guiding the team's decision-making and who is being put on the field and traded away? The announcer doesn't necessarily need to be cheerleading these decisions either. They can be entirely explanatory, even critical mentions of the stats. It seems to eschew any reference to these stats is to ignore part of the story that is the current Astros.
it's because WAR and VORP are acronyms, spoken as war and vorp, while BABIP is merely an initialism
Again, Rule Number 1: The announcers are there to report the happenings in a newsworthy event to people interested in what transpires in the event. They aren't there to help two guys on a barstool in Moe's Tavern or Kelsey's Bar win an argument.
I'm a B-A-B-I-P guy, myself.
For these purposes, suffice it to say that the number of RBIs a player at bat in a major league baseball game has, has been deemed worthy of communicating to the listening and viewing publics, and the patrons in the stands, for many, many decades.
nothing has changed over the past 50 or 100 years warranting a change in approach
Speaking of which... is Dirk doing Jays games all year? He was quite entertaining.
No, Jack Morris beat him out for the regular radio colour commentary spot. IIRC, Hayhurst hosts a daily baseball news talkshow on the radio.
I understand what SBB is trying to say in this thread, and I respect his position. I can see it making sense to report only on counting statistics that a player has produced, and to try to leave the analysis portion out of the broadcast as much as possible.
That we did something 50 or 100 years ago is not an effective argument that we should still do it.
Putting aside how trite an argument that is, nothing has changed over the past 50 or 100 years warranting a change in approach.
Is OPS+ pronounced OPS Plus or Relative OPS?
The announcers aren't doing their job if they're babbling about the HOF during a game, either. It's hard to believe that (most) baseball announcers can't think of things to say about what and who they're watching, and have to default to the patois and content of the guy on the far left stool at Moe's -- but I guess that's the state of the craft today.
Both Jon Miller and Dave Flemming on the Giants' broadcasts will occasionally work in a reference to OPS or WHIP, and I'm pretty sure once I heard Miller talking about OPS+. They'll reference them when they're relevant to the situation, in a tone that's neither cheerleading nor mocking.
Neither Kuiper nor Krukow will ever get there. And that's okay too.
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